Comments on: Sex Addiction: an overview for spouses and friends of the addict

By: SP

SP — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:24:37 +0000

Thanks a lot Mark! That’s really helpful!

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:35:45 +0000

Thanks for your thoughtful comments SP. Sorry for the delay in responding. I am trying to figure out a way of sorting out spam comments without it having to go through my regular email system for personally vetting the comments in here. You guys would NOT believe how much spam comes in the comments of this site! And, because the subject matter of lots of the articles includes words like “pornography” and “sex” you can probably guess that a lot of the spam comes from porn sites. Nice.

Anyway, to your question SP. I do agree with you that there is a possibility for people — at least in the early stages of their pornography addiction/dependency — to keep the pornographic images and fantasies in their minds from intruding when they are being sexual or having sexual thoughts about their partner. But I do think that there is a natural progression with sexual addiction that it takes over more and more of our consciousness, and so people find that even though they may be able to compartmentalize it away at first, it will start to spill over more and more as time goes on.

I would also point out that you’re talking about your fiancee here. I don’t presume to know what’s happening in terms of a sexual relationship, but even if you were (for the sake of argument) having sex together at this point in your relationship, it’s still early, and a different experience. What happens for couples as time goes on in marriage is that the novelty of early sexual experiences gives way to a deeper connection … it moves towards intimacy. But if someone has been trained to expect and long for the powerful erotic experiences that are part and parcel of pornography (and romance novels), they will inevitably find that their “real” intimate relationships aren’t like that … and then they will start drifting into fantasy more and more.

By: sp

sp — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:19:43 +0000

Hi. I’m in the early stages of recovery (not yet a month!). I’ve struggled with sexual sin for a long time. I knew it was wrong and wanted to stop but couldn’t. I have always been an active member at my church, but I would fall to pornography weekly since teen-age years.

It was not something I pursued. I even tried to look at women with pure eyes and fought to have a pure thought life. I prayed, attended church, read books about getting free from pornography, installed filter software on my computer, etc., but nothing helped. No matter what I tried, about once a week I would fall.

About 3 months ago, I told my fiancee and we’ve been really struggling since then. She helped me understand how to get help and I’ve attended a workshop at faithful and true where Mark Brouwer works. Now I’m sober almost a month and have hope for the future.

For me, I think the change has been to be able to share my story with people who understand what I’m going through, and to begin to understand and face the fact that there are deep wounds from my childhood that pushed me down this path to addiction and have kept me here despite my best efforts to the contrary.

I share all this because I want people to see that sex-addiction can be like a disease that people develop even while not wanting it and fighting against it. I thank God for those who understand and care for addicts like me.

Also, I want to share that I disagree with part of what Ms. Mascarella says above: “He is not comparing you to another human being; he is comparing you to some bizarre interpretation of a fantasy that does not exist…” Maybe this is true for most of us, but I don’t believe it was true for me. I don’t compare my fiancee to the images I looked at in pornography. I love her for who she is and am attracted to her because of her own unique beauty AND because I love her. Pornography is like a disease in my life that I don’t want, but couldn’t get rid of until now. I think it was something I kept separate from most of my life.

Mark, can you respond to that?

By: telson

telson — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:20:15 +0000

Pornography, which is especially the problem of men, is the second main factor in the life of a sex addict. This can mean porn magazines, films or material on the Internet that is used to seek for satisfaction. For example on the Internet general headwords concerning this issue are … By them people seek for satisfaction.

One problem with pornography is that it does not bring long-lasting satisfaction to us. These magazines or films kind of promise that you will find the erotic picture you have always been looking and longing for, but the satisfaction does not last for long. As time goes by, many may experience the same as alcoholics and drug addicts: they need more and more powerful stimulus to experience the same stimulation as before, because the amount of pleasure diminishes.

More info: http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/sexaddiction

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:09:32 +0000

Thanks DJ for the note … it’s great to hear from people who’ve had some history in the journey. I agree with you that with the time of recovery it sounds like you’ve had, there is a lot you can offer other people – especially couples early in the process who are struggling with hope. Thanks again!

- Mark

By: DJ Miller

DJ Miller — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:58:53 +0000

As a recovering sex addict with a wife who has had her own journey we have found after 9 years that we are really at a point where we can help others. Call it step 12 if you want but I say it is God taking what was meant for evil and making it good.

By: Jessie

Jessie — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:19:03 +0000

Jessie…

I just came upon this website via the blogging baby website. Interesting post. This could have easily been written by me (with just a change or two). Funny to read another story that is so similar to my own….

By: Internet Pornography Addiction

Internet Pornography Addiction — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:07:56 +0000

I know first hand what these addicitons can do to a spouse for I have done them. When I did them it was not out of a desire to hurt her but I was certainly not fully aware of the pain I was causing. When I decided to work really hard to be better I woke up and realized what I had done. It was too late by then but I am happy I have learned this for the future. I’ve even started a blog to help people stop hurting themselves and others. These addictions make people turn inward and not care very much if at all about those around them. As far as not trusting guys I can certainly understand that. How do you know which ones are not struggling with the same weaknesses? It’s easy to become sinical and think everyone is out of fear of getting hurt again. Fear can keep you from meeting good people though and having good experiences. I see you’re religious, that’s great. God will help you to discern the true character of men you meet in every day life and especially those you consider a relationship with. Lean unto him, he will not mislead you. We as individuals can only wait and watch for actions of people to judge their character.

Great Post!

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:14:40 +0000

Thanks so much for writing, and sharing your story with us Bette. It really is true that if someone denies they have a problem – as your fiance did – there’s nothing you can do, other than be clear about your own boundaries and take the steps you need to take to be healthy and whole. As I’ve been doing this work with addicts in recovery, I’ve come to see that many, many people are struggling with varying levels of sex addiction. But … there are also people who are not, and hopefully you can find someone who is healthier and whole in this area. On the other hand, there are also growing numbers of people who may be addicted, but are working on their recovery, and finding ever deeper levels of honesty and intimacy in their relationships. That’s also something to hope for, and what I’m working for in my own life, and with the clients I’m involved with. Blessings to you Bette.

By: Bette

Bette — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:51:50 +0000

I am only four months removed from my fiance who suffers from sex addiction. The pain, the seeming rejection, the lack of intimacy, the using me to “get a fix”, the anger when gently approached with questions such as, “Why don’t you want to kiss me? Do I have bad breath? Why don’t you want to touch meexcept for…..?” It drove me into a deep depression. His words also contradicted his behavior. After I left him, I tried to talk with him about his addiction but he is in denial or acts as if the behavior is perfectly normal (justification). Several other issues accompanied his addiction and I am glad to be free of the situation and pray for him when not overcome with anger and other negative feelings. I cannot change anyone else and need to work on recovering from the stain left on me. I have read a book and some articles that address how they are feeling and what may have caused it, etc. And, although they are very helpful, I need to address what I am going through. I don’t see men in the same light as I once did/I don’t respect them as a whole now and I know that’s not right. I overreact, according to my friends, to porn, to strip clubs, to men who make unwelcome advances toward me. Even at church when a man glances at my chest, I feel the anger build up inside me. It’s as if I’ve been violated over and over again. I find myself wondering who people REAALLY are/what is their true motive. That’s the effect the lies and deceipt have had on me. I’ve had thoughts of hurting my ex in ways I would not have considered before….in praying that he becomes incapable of performing, that he pay for the pain he has heaped upon me and the several other women he has hurt by his addition. May God heal me.